00:00 The public debate of AUKUS Pillar 2
03:24 Radical Change in Foreign Policy without Public Mandate
05:25 It Always Seems Impossible, Until it is Done
07:26 The Helen Clark Foundation
08:57 Outro
Don’t miss our upcoming events:
Oct 31 (Wellington)
Trump 2.0 vs Harris 1.0 - How Should NZ Prepare
4 Nov (Wellington)
Some of the topics that came up in the discussion with Helen Clark (Part 3 of 3):
Invoking of ANZUS unnecessary - it is concerning this was raised earlier in year
Debate on AUKUS in Australia is really heating up, questions being asked -
It’s like buying a pig in a poke.
That is, you don’t know what you have bought exactly until it is revealed at a later time.
Does New Zealand really need these Pillar 2 capabilities and what are they?
Questions to debate:
Do we need them [capabilities in AI, cyber, quantum, drones, more]?
Can we afford them?
What are the implications of New Zealand signing up to this with its industries?
Do we want to be known for developing industries that are part of a military industrial complex?
The AUKUS Military-Industrial Complex comes to town:
Some NZ tech companies like Rocket Lab see a business opportunity & have come out to form a group touting its benefits. RNZ reports earlier in the year:
Collins also suggested New Zealand's space industry might help develop hypersonic tech, a goal shared by Pillar 2 and Washington, and already involving local firm Rocket Lab in Pentagon contracts.
In Case You Missed It:
In depth thread from Carl Worker after Marco de Jong on OIA request re. briefings between NZ PM Luxon with US Senate Foreign Relations Committee & US House Ways and Means Committee - https://x.com/carlworker/status/1844951951500620049
Luxon’s Pivot (behind paywall) https://www.economist.com/asia/2024/10/17/new-zealands-biggest-pivot-since-the-1980s
From Terence O’Brien (2021): America’s strategic response to China influences others. The Washington security community views China as an "existential threat"—this is unlikely to change. NZ must adjust not only to a rising China but also to a reactionary US. #USChina - https://x.com/MatyOBrien/status/1846040837748351380
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